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		By: Anon		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7107</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 01:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If someone can be convinced to move their Super monies out of AustralianSuper into United Global Capital on the promise of an Iphone than surely Australian Super needs to have a look at it&#039;s offering. 

If you take 4 years to transfer a dead members Super to the wife, months for a switch or you get fined for Greenwashing you&#039;re the problem.

The downright illegal and immoral practices of these Super funds have hit the headlines recently. Practices Advisers have seen for decades. It&#039;s these very poor client service standards that encourage people to look at failed products attractive. 

If Super Funds lifted their game, both in product features, they way they worked with Advisers, and Customer Service,  people would not be looking to invest in products like United Global Capital in the first place. 

They need to be part of the solution, because they&#039;re the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone can be convinced to move their Super monies out of AustralianSuper into United Global Capital on the promise of an Iphone than surely Australian Super needs to have a look at it&#8217;s offering. </p>
<p>If you take 4 years to transfer a dead members Super to the wife, months for a switch or you get fined for Greenwashing you&#8217;re the problem.</p>
<p>The downright illegal and immoral practices of these Super funds have hit the headlines recently. Practices Advisers have seen for decades. It&#8217;s these very poor client service standards that encourage people to look at failed products attractive. </p>
<p>If Super Funds lifted their game, both in product features, they way they worked with Advisers, and Customer Service,  people would not be looking to invest in products like United Global Capital in the first place. </p>
<p>They need to be part of the solution, because they&#8217;re the problem.</p>
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		By: Loads of Real Adviser work		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7106</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loads of Real Adviser work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 01:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7103&quot;&gt;Jon&lt;/a&gt;.

Jon, agree the FARSEA process has been a disaster and continues. 
As for Canberra as whole, what an obscene, corrupt joke it is towards Advisers. 

On a winning note Jon, there is and will continue to be bucket loads of Real Adviser work and demand for wealthy clients. 
Industry Funds only think of FUM and keeping it and the Union, Bikie and ALP clipping the ticket. 
ISA have no care for real advice or any client relationship.

And that my friend is where you will win, good honest, valuable long term client relationships. 

The mass over regulations and obscene Canberra rubbish noise never goes away. But try tune it out and focus and the client relationships and great work you can do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7103">Jon</a>.</p>
<p>Jon, agree the FARSEA process has been a disaster and continues.<br />
As for Canberra as whole, what an obscene, corrupt joke it is towards Advisers. </p>
<p>On a winning note Jon, there is and will continue to be bucket loads of Real Adviser work and demand for wealthy clients.<br />
Industry Funds only think of FUM and keeping it and the Union, Bikie and ALP clipping the ticket.<br />
ISA have no care for real advice or any client relationship.</p>
<p>And that my friend is where you will win, good honest, valuable long term client relationships. </p>
<p>The mass over regulations and obscene Canberra rubbish noise never goes away. But try tune it out and focus and the client relationships and great work you can do.</p>
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		By: Andy		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7104</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 23:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you want to be outside the CSLR (and industry funding adviser component) then just provide General Financial Advice and get your ass off the Advisers register. Yes it&#039;s that easy. 

Advice only becomes personal when you recommend either a dollar amount of something to buy or a qty of something to buy.
(When it comes to sellinh something the same applies - the client tells you the qty of sell of their holding)

You can tell a client why BHP is a buy for example so long as they the client tells you how much to buy or what qty to buy. Never talk dollar amount or qty. Leave that for the client. Providing trading tips or opinion based on technicals or trend following isn&#039;t personal advice. Just ensure the client signs before their first trade a General Advice and Execution letter. It&#039;s at most a few paragrpahs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to be outside the CSLR (and industry funding adviser component) then just provide General Financial Advice and get your ass off the Advisers register. Yes it&#8217;s that easy. </p>
<p>Advice only becomes personal when you recommend either a dollar amount of something to buy or a qty of something to buy.<br />
(When it comes to sellinh something the same applies &#8211; the client tells you the qty of sell of their holding)</p>
<p>You can tell a client why BHP is a buy for example so long as they the client tells you how much to buy or what qty to buy. Never talk dollar amount or qty. Leave that for the client. Providing trading tips or opinion based on technicals or trend following isn&#8217;t personal advice. Just ensure the client signs before their first trade a General Advice and Execution letter. It&#8217;s at most a few paragrpahs.</p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7103</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 22:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7099&quot;&gt;One foot out the door&lt;/a&gt;.

Agree. I&#039;m finishing my FP Masters degree at the moment.

I&#039;m very much of the view that I&#039;ve wasted all of these resources, time, money, everything else to have a Government that is going to let someone with 6 months education do what I do. 

To then give super funds the ability to collectively charge (fee for no service)... How can advisers compete against that?

I&#039;m incredibly angry and cynical about how Canberra works.

It&#039;s pure filth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7099">One foot out the door</a>.</p>
<p>Agree. I&#8217;m finishing my FP Masters degree at the moment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very much of the view that I&#8217;ve wasted all of these resources, time, money, everything else to have a Government that is going to let someone with 6 months education do what I do. </p>
<p>To then give super funds the ability to collectively charge (fee for no service)&#8230; How can advisers compete against that?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m incredibly angry and cynical about how Canberra works.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pure filth.</p>
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		By: Tired Adviser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tired Adviser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 22:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To be clear, the CSLR is wrong, but if there is one, why is it not spread across all Fund Managers, platforms, Super and Non-Super funds, and Advisers?
Our cost would be a cup of coffee a year. That I would consider reasonable.
But again why are we covering the failure of a company that Phoenix itself (Doesn&#039;t ASIC investigate This type of action)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be clear, the CSLR is wrong, but if there is one, why is it not spread across all Fund Managers, platforms, Super and Non-Super funds, and Advisers?<br />
Our cost would be a cup of coffee a year. That I would consider reasonable.<br />
But again why are we covering the failure of a company that Phoenix itself (Doesn&#8217;t ASIC investigate This type of action)</p>
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		By: Des Nutmeg		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7101</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Des Nutmeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 22:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NIMBY. They admit that there is a problem, refer to vague solutions, but say don&#039;t look at us. If everyone had the same attitude, then the Government will just crush the financial advice profession, and all these other stakeholders will just look the other way and say what happened there. 

Whilst the initial CSLR explosions have been outside the APRA regulated super space, the next big one, which is fermenting every day, is much closer to home for the super funds. Shield Master Fund and First Guardian, were products that were available on super fund platforms. Where this will hit the CSLR, is that one large licensee, owned by a listed financial services company, was heavily exposed to both Shield Master Fund and First Guardian. We are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars of exposure to both of these disasters. This information is out there and is being repeatedly published in the mainstream media. It is now just a matter of time until it blows up. What are the super funds going to say then?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIMBY. They admit that there is a problem, refer to vague solutions, but say don&#8217;t look at us. If everyone had the same attitude, then the Government will just crush the financial advice profession, and all these other stakeholders will just look the other way and say what happened there. </p>
<p>Whilst the initial CSLR explosions have been outside the APRA regulated super space, the next big one, which is fermenting every day, is much closer to home for the super funds. Shield Master Fund and First Guardian, were products that were available on super fund platforms. Where this will hit the CSLR, is that one large licensee, owned by a listed financial services company, was heavily exposed to both Shield Master Fund and First Guardian. We are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars of exposure to both of these disasters. This information is out there and is being repeatedly published in the mainstream media. It is now just a matter of time until it blows up. What are the super funds going to say then?</p>
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		By: One foot out the door		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[One foot out the door]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7097&quot;&gt;Jon&lt;/a&gt;.

Jon you are correct! And after Jones announcement on the SIS act being changed to allow super funds to levy all members for the cost of advice, ostensively allowing them to fund and build Wealth advice businesses internally and be allowed to give advice on practically everything we do has me wondering why the hell bother?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://financialnewswire.com.au/financial-planning/dont-include-us-in-cslr-funding-say-super-funds/#comment-7097">Jon</a>.</p>
<p>Jon you are correct! And after Jones announcement on the SIS act being changed to allow super funds to levy all members for the cost of advice, ostensively allowing them to fund and build Wealth advice businesses internally and be allowed to give advice on practically everything we do has me wondering why the hell bother?</p>
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		By: Wildcat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wildcat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I too have an unblemished record. I want to be excluded from the CLSR. 

As usual the union funds want their cake while they eat it too. Nothing new to see here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have an unblemished record. I want to be excluded from the CLSR. </p>
<p>As usual the union funds want their cake while they eat it too. Nothing new to see here.</p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So why am I included in the cslr? 

I haven&#039;t had an AFCA complaint, or a product fail. Why should I pay?

The CSLR is a joke. So are the people who designed it.

Australian Financial Services legislation and regulation seem two-tiered.

Advisers existence perpetually under assault. 

Unlevel playing field.

Disgusting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why am I included in the cslr? </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had an AFCA complaint, or a product fail. Why should I pay?</p>
<p>The CSLR is a joke. So are the people who designed it.</p>
<p>Australian Financial Services legislation and regulation seem two-tiered.</p>
<p>Advisers existence perpetually under assault. </p>
<p>Unlevel playing field.</p>
<p>Disgusting.</p>
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		By: Anon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If they want to be advisers they need to pay there way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they want to be advisers they need to pay there way.</p>
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