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		By: Terry G		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7446</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 10:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7439&quot;&gt;Old Risky&lt;/a&gt;.

Their defense will be almost certainly be that if they attract more members, then the economies of scale will reduce administration fees. 

But that&#039;s ok... it&#039;s all well and good to take on new members but if you can&#039;t service them, then you have tomorrow&#039;s problem.

The opportunity to take on someone and disappoint is better than no having a client at all. 

Where the gremlins lie are in the related party areas. But that&#039;s a story for tomorrow. 

(I.e. if you own an office building, who provided the flowers, who cut the grass, who maintained the building?) Who are they, why were they picked?

That there would be a really great deep dive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7439">Old Risky</a>.</p>
<p>Their defense will be almost certainly be that if they attract more members, then the economies of scale will reduce administration fees. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s ok&#8230; it&#8217;s all well and good to take on new members but if you can&#8217;t service them, then you have tomorrow&#8217;s problem.</p>
<p>The opportunity to take on someone and disappoint is better than no having a client at all. </p>
<p>Where the gremlins lie are in the related party areas. But that&#8217;s a story for tomorrow. </p>
<p>(I.e. if you own an office building, who provided the flowers, who cut the grass, who maintained the building?) Who are they, why were they picked?</p>
<p>That there would be a really great deep dive.</p>
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		By: Terry G		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7445</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 10:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just remember people the first act of the Former Minister Stephen Jones after he was elected.

He wanted to arguably reduce transparency and accountability of super fund trustee spending.

The ALP - party of accountability and transparency right?

Stop messing about. We&#039;re too nice. We are at war.

Here&#039;s a thought, I&#039;d rather pay my CLSR fee to someone to run a campaign against the ALP.

If everyone else did the same, that&#039;d be a rather excellent fighting fund.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remember people the first act of the Former Minister Stephen Jones after he was elected.</p>
<p>He wanted to arguably reduce transparency and accountability of super fund trustee spending.</p>
<p>The ALP &#8211; party of accountability and transparency right?</p>
<p>Stop messing about. We&#8217;re too nice. We are at war.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a thought, I&#8217;d rather pay my CLSR fee to someone to run a campaign against the ALP.</p>
<p>If everyone else did the same, that&#8217;d be a rather excellent fighting fund.</p>
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		By: The Stench of Industry Funds		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7443</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Stench of Industry Funds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 03:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mega millions being spent in order to Sponsors footy teams &#038; naming right to Stadiums!
Well that appears to be in the member&#039;s &quot;Best Interest&quot;.... Nothing to see here!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mega millions being spent in order to Sponsors footy teams &amp; naming right to Stadiums!<br />
Well that appears to be in the member&#8217;s &#8220;Best Interest&#8221;&#8230;. Nothing to see here!</p>
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		By: Real ISF Regulation required		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7442</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real ISF Regulation required]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 03:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7440&quot;&gt;Former Super Fund CEO.&lt;/a&gt;.

Spot on boss 
sad but so true]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7440">Former Super Fund CEO.</a>.</p>
<p>Spot on boss<br />
sad but so true</p>
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		By: Real ISF Regulation required		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7441</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real ISF Regulation required]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 02:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7435&quot;&gt;Factchecker&lt;/a&gt;.

The regulators / industry super funds best buddies should be doing far more than guessing about the ISF corporate sporting boxes for the Union &#038; Bikie bosses pleasure. And all the related party “services” these same Union &#038; Bikie bosses benefit from via ISF preferential use.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7435">Factchecker</a>.</p>
<p>The regulators / industry super funds best buddies should be doing far more than guessing about the ISF corporate sporting boxes for the Union &amp; Bikie bosses pleasure. And all the related party “services” these same Union &amp; Bikie bosses benefit from via ISF preferential use.</p>
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		By: Former Super Fund CEO.		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7440</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Super Fund CEO.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 02:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Industry Super funds are as follows;

&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;85 staff working in the new business enquiries section, &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;25 New Business Development Managers&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;20 Marketing Staff.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;18 Union employed Consultants actually doing no work but getting paid $200K a year. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;10  Full time staff members (work from home &#038; Offshore)  working in Pensions, Fund Adminstration and Processing.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;5 Accountants, Auditors and Fund Adminstrators. 4 are based in Vietnam.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;1 Full time IT guy to keeping  Windows Vista running&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;1 Full time Training Manager because we don&#039;t train staff.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;1 Part timer that scans in authorities to proceed. Typcially processing them 3 weeks after your present the SOA.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;1 Part timer comes in on a Wednesday to work half a day in the deceased estate team.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;1 Part timer comes in on Thursday called the Complaints Officer, that also doubles as the Insurance Claims Liason Officer. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
Note we&#039;ve moved to a 4 day a week, and staff members working from home need to log on to Microsoft teams at least 2 hours a day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Industry Super funds are as follows;</p>
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<li>85 staff working in the new business enquiries section, </li>
<li>25 New Business Development Managers</li>
<li>20 Marketing Staff.</li>
<li>18 Union employed Consultants actually doing no work but getting paid $200K a year. </li>
<li>10  Full time staff members (work from home &amp; Offshore)  working in Pensions, Fund Adminstration and Processing.</li>
<li>5 Accountants, Auditors and Fund Adminstrators. 4 are based in Vietnam.</li>
<li>1 Full time IT guy to keeping  Windows Vista running</li>
<li>1 Full time Training Manager because we don&#8217;t train staff.</li>
<li>1 Part timer that scans in authorities to proceed. Typcially processing them 3 weeks after your present the SOA.</li>
<li>1 Part timer comes in on a Wednesday to work half a day in the deceased estate team.</li>
<li>1 Part timer comes in on Thursday called the Complaints Officer, that also doubles as the Insurance Claims Liason Officer. </li>
</ul>
<p>Note we&#8217;ve moved to a 4 day a week, and staff members working from home need to log on to Microsoft teams at least 2 hours a day.</p>
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		By: Old Risky		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7439</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Risky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 02:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m afraid that on the evidence, Apra and ASIC are &lt;strong&gt;all hat, no cattle, &lt;/strong&gt;when it comes to Industry superfunds

Watched a game of NRL featuring the Titans over the weekend. Coming to you from &lt;strong&gt;Cbus Super &lt;/strong&gt;stadium

Love to see the figures at advertising on TV at the moment, because &lt;strong&gt;Aware Super &lt;/strong&gt;is starting to become as frequent on our TV screens as Hardly Normal. And Jerry negotiates big discounts

How can any of this rubbish be seen as being of benefit to members]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid that on the evidence, Apra and ASIC are <strong>all hat, no cattle, </strong>when it comes to Industry superfunds</p>
<p>Watched a game of NRL featuring the Titans over the weekend. Coming to you from <strong>Cbus Super </strong>stadium</p>
<p>Love to see the figures at advertising on TV at the moment, because <strong>Aware Super </strong>is starting to become as frequent on our TV screens as Hardly Normal. And Jerry negotiates big discounts</p>
<p>How can any of this rubbish be seen as being of benefit to members</p>
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		By: Researcher		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7437</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Researcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2025 23:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obviously this won&#039;t apply to their mates in the union funds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously this won&#8217;t apply to their mates in the union funds.</p>
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		By: Calling it out		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calling it out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2025 23:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Big Government in action. Perhaps the Government should just run everything themselves. Although, as it didn&#039;t work so well for the USSR, perhaps ASIC and APRA should just be defunded.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Government in action. Perhaps the Government should just run everything themselves. Although, as it didn&#8217;t work so well for the USSR, perhaps ASIC and APRA should just be defunded.</p>
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		By: Factchecker		</title>
		<link>https://financialnewswire.com.au/superannuation/asics-double-edged-super-fund-expenditure-scrutiny/#comment-7435</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Factchecker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2025 22:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are our regulators crossing into murky territory by increasingly second guessing trustee decision-making when it comes to investing capital and deploying resourcing? Shadow trusteeship is something to be avoided, and that includes by regulators too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are our regulators crossing into murky territory by increasingly second guessing trustee decision-making when it comes to investing capital and deploying resourcing? Shadow trusteeship is something to be avoided, and that includes by regulators too.</p>
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